people, no matter how 1 camp's environment is better than the other one. i always believe that the one that you had great time with your group is the one that is the best. when i gave my comments in class, i really hope no one took it personally. first of all, i was not in the camp(2nd one) long enough to feel for the kids. even if the place was less condusive i believe the kids made it up to you ppl. i think it didn't matter to you when you have the lovely kids with you. all you wanted was the best for them and not how the place should be at its best for you. so, i know each and every one of us enjoyed both the camps. one more thing, Happy Chinese New Year and Gong Xi Fa Cai to all the Chinese and happy holidays to those who are not celebrating Chinese New Year.